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Comments and corrections are always welcome. If you spot problems, large or small, let us know. We’ll fix them. Groups will launch new sites. Old groups will combine. Groups will change their name. New groups will form. Help us keep up. We’ll update group listings and related links on both and

We'll also honor requests to be removed (although we receive very few). We'll proactively remove group website links that have been taken over to promote gamboling, crypto, porn, or scams - none of which we want to promote. Please let us know if you spot any such hijacked links.

Your emails to or will go to Dennis Church, editor of both sites.

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